Setting Healthy Boundaries and Finding Confidence in You as a Woman Executive

Claudia Miller: 0:07

This is roadmap to executive suite podcast, a place where we talk about accelerating your careers and how to get to the C suite all tailored to the ambitious woman. We're here to have fun, feel empowered and get actionable steps to get you closer to your dream job and salary, no matter where you are in your career. I'm your host, Claudia Miller, and I'm a career coach who helps ambitious women get the jobs they want, all while getting them up to $50,000 in salary increases. I've been featured in Forbes MSNBC, and a one of the top 23 Most Innovative career coaches of 2025 Business Insider. Welcome to the show, and let's get started. Hi, I am so excited to have on the show today Carrie Montgomery. She's a transformational style coach, body image expert and creator of the somatic styling method, which helps women step into true embodiment and empower confidence. She loves empowering female entrepreneurs to spiritually connect with themselves and their business enabling their brand to be a magnet for success. Having worked with moonlight cinema and stars such as Kate blanket and Aaron Eckhart. Her expertise in film design, marketing and wellness, along with her love of fashion, allows her to create a holistic experience for personal style. She carries her clients brands helping women feel and be magnetic. This newfound confidence carries over to her clients brands elevating their visibility and taking many of them from six figures to seven figures in as little as one year. Her work has been featured on on the Oprah Winfrey Network Super Soul Sunday with Christiane Northrup, Coastal Living Old Port Magazine and Hay House, and you can connect with her I Kerry montgomery.com. Carrie, I'm so happy to have you here.

Unknown: 1:49

Thank you so much. It's such a pleasure to be here, Claudia.

Claudia Miller: 1:52

Yeah, of course, no, I'm happy to have you here. I'm especially you know, one of the things that we've been talking here on the podcast is, you know, not only like how to make to the executive level, or how to get promoted, or how to eventually get to there, but also like, what do you do, like with the job search process, how to work with recruiters. And during our conversation, one thing that you mentioned, which I thought, you know, everyone needs to hear this, we definitely need to talk about, especially towards listeners is talking about boundaries. And, you know, like how that takes into effect a little bit more like in the workplace. So, you know, if you want to get started, just tell me like a little bit more about, like, you know, what do you do and exactly, like, why boundaries are important? And how for some of us that, you know, have challenges dealing with boundaries, like how do we do that in the workplace effectively?

Unknown: 2:39

Yeah, such a good question. Thanks so much for having me here. So, you know, I started out my business in 2014. And I was just going to be a coach. And I was like, Okay, I'm just going to be like a business coach. And I have a whole, like, sales and marketing background. And I had a whole holistic health background. And I found like, on the entrepreneurial journey, there were a lot of obstacles. And I was a people pleaser. So I was just like, give, give, give, give, give, and not ask for a lot in return. And it's fine to do that, when you're, I mean, it's actually never okay to do that. But if you're a salaried employee, it's okay to do that in a way because you know, that you're going to make money, no matter what. But when you're like banking on, you know, you got to make that sale, it changes, you know, you don't have the energy left. So you're like giving too much. And so you have to really, like understand what that line that's like too much to give, and that will feed you back. I mean, when I first started my business, I really struggled with like, accepting money. You know, it was like, definitely part of like, not part of my whole process. And so I remember just being like, Okay, I'm making the container for money to come in. Okay, great. And I had a sales background. So I don't like have a problem with like closing a sale. But the transaction always made me feel weird. So I had to work on that on an energetic level, like receiving my own worth and value. And then as I got onto the journey, and like I was working with, you know, celebrity clients, and people who have a lot of visibility, I started to notice that no matter who I was working with, everyone had body image issues. And so there was like a lack of like a filter inside most people's heads around their mindset around who they were, how they looked. And so I started to create a soul styling program so people could really learn to style themselves from the inside out. And that has turned into like quantum styling so that we're like building a magnetic presence more than just like, I want to look good, right? Because there's all this like, How many times do you look in the mirror and you're like, Yeah, my assets do Big today like I can't I just not, it's actually a feeling right, it's typically from one day to the next, it hasn't changed that much, maybe you kind of over it the day before. But, you know, it's it hasn't changed that much. So you're working with the energy of that, and how to adorn your body. And then from that place, I just got into really the mindset, right, and like, that's in building this magnetic field and understanding our emotions. And when my clients are working, you know, they're all entrepreneurs, or they're transitioning from their full time job into the entrepreneurial space. So they kind of have that like one to two year period where they're created their business. And they're just like, okay, want to make it to the next level, so that I can let go of my role. And the biggest thing that they find in this process is boundaries, right, they find that they don't have enough boundaries. So it's time and energy, it's money, right? investment, and return. Those are really, really big ones. So boundaries aren't like, rigid, it's like, there's a give and take, right? Like, there's this line of like, okay, I'm gonna set a standard, and I kind of expect you to treat me the same way. So, as we've worked on that, it's been really transformative for people. And obviously, I've repaired a lot of those problems I had that we get.

Claudia Miller: 6:25

No, I can totally relate to like what you're saying, I mean, sometimes I'll wear an outfit, and I'm like, I'm feeling my best. And then the next time, like, I have nothing to wear. So I kind of like going towards what you're talking about, like really finding it's kind of finding tuning. So tell me a little bit more about like how, you know, I'm a woman in a professional setting, I mean, corporate? How can I use that skill? Or how to better attain it that can help me be more confident in the workplace? I've been able to set my image as well, you know, so that way, it's, you know, it's still my personality, but it's still acceptable within the workplace.

Unknown: 7:00

Yeah, I mean, know, the rules and know how to break them. That's it. It's like, okay, what's appropriate for work, right. So there are certain like, low cut for short, sometimes inappropriate to short skirt isn't appropriate. So you kind of have to know, sort of what the boundaries are there. I went to a school that had dress code. And so I learned how to break the rules, but stay, but not get in trouble. So that I could do it my way. And I did that, you know, my whole entire school life. So part of it is you're looking at shape, and body architecture. So when you look at your body, and you have an issue with it, and you can't connect with your body, and you're thinking, oh my god, you know what, like, I've got nothing to wear, nothing fits, there might be a real thing, like you might be swollen, you maybe had too much salt the day before something or not enough water, so that could be real. So then you're actually going to choose a fabric that has elastication in it, right? It just you got to kind of like know where your body's at and say, Okay, I have choices, I just need my wardrobe to work with me on that. And then maybe like, you're super tired, and you need to wear something that's like long and flowy. So that you have a little bit more of a release of energy, instead of feeling like I got to like, you know, stuff myself into the suit. So it's working within the boundaries, you don't want to like I've never wanted to look like anyone else or tried to or, like I've been very independent, spirited. So it really, yeah, there's always like that little like, you're choosing the fabric based on your body's needs. If it's flowy, if you need more support, right, if you need feel like you need to be held together. Like some people, they're so tired, they just feel like I need to be held together by my clothes, you know, which is like, just take the day off and rest maybe, but that's another that's a whole self care thing there. But yeah, it's really knowing also where you want to go. Right? So how you can like stretch your own identity and your personal image towards that person you're trying to become. And it's not where it's so far out of alignment with who you are. It's just a stretch, right? And so you're going to slowly stretch and over time, you're actually going to become the person that you've been desiring to be.

Claudia Miller: 9:26

I think one something that helps me sometimes it's like looking at, you know, like celebrities are out there just trying to see like their style. Like for me, it's Sara Blakely. So it's like I feel like she's very relaxed but still like when you know when she's like presenting or having these meetings or events like she still shows her personality but it's still workplace appropriate. And that's something like I least in helps me or since I'm fatigued. I'm sure I'm like five feet tall. I look at people that are around my height and see like okay, what works for them. That looks good. Let me try it out and see if it fits for me.

Unknown: 9:59

Yeah, On, how does that work for you?

Claudia Miller: 10:02

So far, so good. Now I still have those days where I'm like, I don't know what to wear, I have a follow on clothes, but I still don't know what to wear. And I don't feel like we're in any of it.

Unknown: 10:12

Right? So when you go through that process, it's like, okay, you check in with your body, and you're like, Okay, where do I have energy? That's like, pent up? Or where do I feel anxious? Or where do I feel angry, right, like checking with those emotions. And, you know, emotions are just energy in motion. So if we have a cluster of emotions happening, there's actually a lot of energy stored into a place, which then if it's not mentally processed, or emotionally processed, or felt, then we can project onto ourselves that we are not pretty don't have anything, everything goes into lack. So that's how we get from like, this is style to like, this is actually a spiritual program to transform you. Okay, yeah, because everything is truly reflection of the inside out, right. And so we want to check in and see what's resonant inside our body. And if you can see kind of track. So I use a body map for people and they to track their emotions with my clients. And this helps them start to identify to label the emotions in their body on a piece of paper where they're feeling them, and they get to see day in day out what they're actually experiencing. And when you see it on paper, it's so different, right? It's just like journaling, right? Like, it goes out onto the paper, and you're like, wow, it's over here. That happened, I process that. So when you start to actually map your emotions over and over and over again, you start to see patterns. And then you start to understand that that energy is carried around in your body. And then over time, you start to understand the story that you're telling yourself. And as you start to listen to that story, you're telling yourself, it's a belief system that stuck inside your body, which is then something that you're putting out into the world, subconsciously.

Claudia Miller: 12:02

Could you give me an example of a client that you've worked on that, you know, you were working through them with this and all of a sudden, it became like, Oh, my God, I this is how it's translated into my life or how it's come out. And now, you know, my life is different. And it looks like

Unknown: 12:18

x. Yeah, I mean, God, there's so many, I'm just trying to think of like, what's a really good one right now, I feel like, because some of them are pretty, like deep stories around like abuse. And so I don't want to go too deep into that. But I had a client who literally just started wearing red lipstick. She didn't feel very safe and secure in her body. And she had like anger, and she couldn't really figure out what it was. And we tracked it back to the fact that her parents were living in the house with her. And it was like, they were older, and she was taking care of them. So it was this extra, you know, she had her own family and husband and like all of that to going on. So it was like this extra thing. And what we figured out is that the energy of her parents there and some of the things that like her mother would say, started to suppress her again, and started to make her not be able to feel and not be able to express herself. So she wasn't able to speak out things and she wasn't able to feel a sort of her own sensuality. Right? So we would go down to like, that she doesn't feel safe and secure. And she can't like speak her her purpose, or whatever it is, she can't use her voice. So what we did was she started wearing red lipstick, and red panties. And we just started to work with it consciously so that she couldn't change anything else, right? Like she couldn't change the situation, but she could change her consciousness around the situation. And by doing two acts that allowed her to stay conscious around what was being suppressed or oppressed in her body. It completely transformed her experience of her parents like her parents didn't leave, but her experience changed so she didn't feel the onslaught from them anymore.

Claudia Miller: 14:13

Okay, interesting. I mean, I know that you're kind of like when I wear like a nice power suit that just looks great on me like it's a different feel. Or when I'm wearing heels like i It's crazy, but it's like I've been

Unknown: 14:26

wearing heels all day today because I'm like it's kind of chilly where I am. So I'm like I have this big sweater on but I'm like if I throw on heels and some 20 pounds I'll be great like

Claudia Miller: 14:36

yeah, so that's really good to know like within the workplace like to change like, what do you can you do to wear or that it's going to make you feel comfortable but also confident and I think that helps you even like when you're in meetings or stepping into like, you may not notice it right away but like subconsciously like you're feeling better, you're feeling more confident you're more likely to speak out. Maybe give your opinions like during meaning or something? And knowing kind

Unknown: 15:02

of like, yeah, so there's the extremes right there, those who just think that the clothes will make them, right. And they don't do any work on site in themselves, right? They don't understand what's going on. And I would say I wasn't that person. But I definitely just could like, look good and kind of get away with it, if you will. But I had a lot of insecurities and things that were going on. And I kept getting putting myself in work situations that felt like I couldn't speak up, right? Like, I couldn't actually use my voice. So I had to work on that, especially like building my business, I really had to work on that. And I definitely I fall into trigger mode at times to where I take a step back, and I recalibrate. But I'm conscious of it now. So there's the extreme of like, oh, no, I just need to look good. And like I mastered that skill. But the feel good part is really important, because it doesn't matter what clothes you wear, like it really, really, really doesn't. I mean, I can tell you how to manipulate your external reality with clothing to make people think that you are XYZ, but we want to stay aligned with who you are. But you can use like to feel more relaxed. You can use silks or something like that, or like viscous things that are just like a little bit more subtle and shifty. Like I have my shirt today is a viscous shirt. And it's very, like it's very relaxed and soft underneath this big sweater that I have on.

Claudia Miller: 16:28

Yeah, that's true. Because I mean, sometimes you hear like fake it till you make it and you know and then people are just some people say really works for them. And it might be because they're aligned and they're confident they're working on themselves. I know that you know through time like I've been working on my confidence. I think you would probably cringe if you saw a picture. When I was younger, I always like to tell the story because it shows like how much I have learned and grown and you know when I think it was in, it might have been like high school or something. I attended a internship program at Fermilab Accelerator Laboratory. So it was like something very prestigious. It's like very well known and I took classes and took an internship there and I didn't know how to dress up. My mom was like a hair beautician hairstylist so it's not like she worked in corporate and I went and during our ceremony to told us to dress up and I were Capri, white Capri pants. Were the two top and ablaze heels. And a time I was like 1415 years old, I had no idea never really see I only seen suits. And I know I didn't have a suit. And then what was in my wardrobe. So I kind of worked through that. And of course then when I showed up and everyone is in slacks, I did feel different. I feel like what did I do? Oh my god, what am I wearing? And then I'm just really subconscious throughout the whole time. And, you know, there's kind of like that aspect kind of like you mentioned, like the clothes or just clothes, but I felt very insecure. I felt out of place. But yeah, it can make

Unknown: 18:01

it so that's like you know, I'm from New York City. So and I grew up in London so I'm like in a very style progressive places. And I

Claudia Miller: 18:08

carry it. Where are you at? I want the listeners to know where

Unknown: 18:11

I live in. I live in Ibiza, Spain. So in a little island in the Mediterranean. Yeah. I know I I don't stay put very, very long. But this one I think I'm gonna stay for a while. Yeah, I really I've been here almost three years now. And it's great spot. Yeah. Really nice to go through the pandemic here.

Claudia Miller: 18:29

Yep. And Ibiza. Spain definitely is on my bucket list of places to go. Yeah,

Unknown: 18:35

come, come come. So yeah, growing up in places where, you know, fashion was the focal point, right. And that's kind of what built my love for fashion and style. And, but I'm also like, such a heart and soul driven person, I've had incredible medical experiences that have caused me to reflect on life in a deeper way that the average person doesn't typically go through. And my first real like, spiritual experience, I was about 18 years old, and I woke up from a surgery and I was like, Whoa, like, there's a whole other worlds out there. And I just experienced it. And when you go on those journeys, where you think like, okay, there's like, there's another reality, and yet I need to now function in this reality. And you kind of have to, like build a bridge back in and so style became that part of like, I build a container for myself with clothing. And but I continued to do the internal work to grow and develop to find confidence outside of how I looked, because, I mean, I have like, I'm so body dysmorphic. It's not even funny. Like, I'm really tall, like, I'm 510 I'm big boned. Like, I have broad shoulders. So I'm called the Big girl all the time. And, you know, it's you I have to like, learn how to digest that and not be offended, but also set a boundary with someone and say, You know what, like, I really appreciate if you don't call me that and asked to be reframed, and it just depends on how you can digest it or not. But knowing like, you know, not only what's externally, quote unquote, appropriate and being a little different, right, like, it's actually good to be a little bit different, because you do get acknowledged, and you're actually when you are a little bit different, you're holding a different energetic container than other people. And so you can be recognized and acknowledged for that, but we want to make sure that you're emotionally centered and balanced, not like panicked, I'm different. Right? There's a bit people feel that right. Like, that's a very clear distinction of like, okay, she's different. And she's, like, panicky, you know, like, and people can feel that, how am I gonna have a high vibration, or you know, what she's different, but she also feels like very centered and peaceful and balanced. So

Claudia Miller: 21:01

I'll just say like, for people that are just like, kind of like in that panicky, like just not aligned, like, what recommendations do you have for them to be more on like that, hey, I feel comfortable. And I'm, I am here to like, and this is I'm centered and aligned,

Unknown: 21:15

go to therapy. There's a lot of things you can do. So there, a lot of it is self care. Some of it is therapy, like if you if you're panicky, and you haven't gone to therapy, you're living with anxiety that you don't need to live with. And so there is absolutely a you've a full reason to go. There's Dialectical Behavioral Therapy, or there's hypnotherapy. And there's EMDR. Typically, anxiety does come from like a trauma response. So just starting to like Clear that out. Knowing that you're where you are, like, I call it your proprioception, so your space and time like where you are. So acknowledging the room in front of you, the people around you just be like, Okay, there's a white wall. There's a glass vase, there's a radiator, there's a chair behind me like those things to be like, oh, yeah, I'm right here. What I'm thinking feeling isn't real. Right. So getting present. Other tools like salt baths, like Epsom salt tubs, massive massage, so anything breathwork. Like, if you're panicky, go do breath work, it'll move the energy outside of your body so quickly. Those are just this new tool.

Claudia Miller: 22:25

Yeah, no, that's great. I know that a few like, of my friends, like, tend to have like anxiety attacks. But no, that's really helpful for like, for some listeners out there, I mean, like, I know that especially with everything happening, you know, they're, you know, women out there, like working and still managing a family, sometimes distance learning with their kids plus everything going around them. It's just, it can take a toll on your mental health. So it's like making sure that you're taking care of yourself in many different ways. Whatever suits you best, some of me like, like you said, taking just a nice bath with like salt. And while others it might take more like breathwork and meditating and centering themselves in order for them to kind of feel at ease, especially with everything happening. And there's just yeah, things we just don't have control over. And it's really hard, especially when it comes to that.

Unknown: 23:14

Yeah, I mean, we're in pretty unprecedented times. And for us as humans to know that we can ask for help. There's, I wish I remember the name of the Instagram, but it's called like anxiety, something and it literally sometimes like my housemate and I will look at it and I'm like, Oh, wow. Yeah, I guess that's anxiety, too. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. I was living with that for years. Like, I didn't realize that that was also anxiety. So there's, like normalizing how we express our mental and physical discomfort is really important. There's nothing wrong with someone having anxiety, but let's help them get to the help that they need. And that's not normal. If anyone needs someone to follow, follow Dr. Ayman. Okay. Yeah, he's focused on brain health and mental health. And he's incredible. And he's really working on D stigmatizing this because it's, we just need pioneers in this space. We are in a time where, what the why this is weird. I feel slightly emotional about this. What the world has gone through in the past year is really traumatic. And I was doing some writing the other night. I'm preparing a pitch for someone. And I had to recount ideas and things and events that happened during the first lockdown. And I kind of had like, just shoved it under, you know, I was like, oh, yeah, it was good. Like I was working online. I was staying busy. And I was doing calls with like, my spiritual healer and I was doing this quantum healing training and like, I'm good. And I was like, Yeah, I actually was like, completely afraid the whole entire time that the police were going to come and bust out my door because it was illegal to go outside your house. So I was allowed out because of my dog. And then I would take these like sneaky paths to kind of try and get away. But they would patrol with loudspeakers twice a day. And yeah, it was really intense. So you just didn't know like, what was going to happen, and that alone, and then you compound it with financial loss, you compound it with the family situations for people not having any time alone. For many people, I was alone the whole time, thank God for my dog. But, you know, there's definitely the amount of stress that people have been alert for the past year is incredible. So really, normalizing this conversation around anxiety is important. Yeah, just wear a lot of long flowing dresses to make you feel relaxed. That's all.

Claudia Miller: 25:53

And what I wanted to pivot a little bit, I want you to talk a little bit more about like boundaries, because I mean, like, I feel like as women, sometimes we feel that we have to do more, you know, we already know we're getting paid less than men. And then it's just like, Okay, we have to work harder. And, you know, some, you know, listeners out there, you know, they have family, so they have to chop off their kids, like before school, I mean, before work or have to pick them up afterwards. And it's just how I feel like as women sometimes like, yeah, and I do this myself, I'm like, Okay, I'll add it to the list, I'll just add that to the to do list, I'll get to it. And then you start adding all of a sudden, it just becomes overwhelming. So like, how do you like, Do you have any tips on like, how to work around those boundaries? Or slowly start building those boundaries in order to protect yourself mentally? And could you give me some tips?

Unknown: 26:43

Yeah, I'm trying to like make it really succinct, because sometimes it's not. So I look at it from like a physical, mental and emotional space, right. So physical is like hours in the day, what you can actually plot and plan. And that's almost like project management wise, like if you look at your business, or your work, or the things that you want to get done, like time blocking, like literally how, like, I have a running list of projects. And then I'm constantly plugging in two, three hour blocks here, okay, I'm gonna get that done on this project. I don't think well, like there's time to transition times, like all of those things, I won't go into that details, because it's like, you can't get too much accomplished in one hour, unless you're already pre set up to get your head right in the game for that, if that makes sense. So that's around like productivity, and just setting your boundaries around, like, No, I can't take another meeting, like I actually need to get XYZ done. And that's like, I have a weird week of like, 35 hours of meetings this week. That's not normal. For me. I'm usually like the 15 hour mark, and that's good. And then the rest is, you know, production work and relaxing and taking care of my body. The first thing that goes on my calendar for the month, is my self care. That above all, so that's my body, like Mind, Body Spirit, that is how I take care of my body. And if I don't have that on, I can guarantee you everything else is gonna fall apart. Because this vessel needs to be healthy and strong and focus. And if it's not, I cannot function. So that is like a hard, hard, hard boundary. And I do I enroll a lot of help, because of my medical stuff I've gone through, my body needs extra care, right? Like I need to have adjustments and things to keep my body moving forward, I need to have infusions, and all these different things and treatments. So that can take 10 to 15 hours of my week. Like it's like having a child. I mean, well, a child's a lot more than that. But you know what I mean? It's definitely like an extra role to have for me. So that, for me is a really, really big commitment. And then also, like emotionally, just like making sure that you have that time for relaxation. And knowing that, you know, you might not be able to work till 11 o'clock at night, you know, and that you'll have to give yourself so time time I feel like is a really big key player in this. When you get into the personalities, right, that are pushing your boundaries, you will start to recognize in your body and this comes back to the emotions, this you'll start to feel like a pressure, right like a physical pressure from someone that's trying to get you to do something you don't want to do. And if you can take a step back before you respond, there's like a big pause before you respond for anything and say like, Okay, how do I want to respond like what am I feeling, checking in with yourself letting yourself be the guy, then you become the leader, you don't become the responder. And when you're the leader, you're not falling victim to broken boundaries. Right? And when you can, like lead yourself towards what your goals and your dreams are. You'll feel more pride you'll feel more happy you'll feel more relaxed because you're actually honoring yourself. And if you just practice that over and over and over again, it actually starts to feel good.

Claudia Miller: 30:08

And one of the things I mean, like beforehand, before, you know, I quit my job and went full time on my business, which I've been doing now for five years and Career Coach, you know, I would think I think it started at night, and it will be like, from 9am to LA for 4:30pm meetings. So then

once 4: 30:22

35pm came, then I had time to start work. And one of the things that I had to do was just take inventory. And I said, All right, I am literally 30, like 30 to 35 hours a week doing calls. Do you want me to do the work? Or do you want me to attend the calls, because at this point, it's taking a toll on my mental health it's taking, you know, there's just so much and honestly, half of it was unnecessary. It was just meetings for meetings. And then slowly, we started, like taking out more meetings, and it's like, this is not useful, this is not going to, or let's just compile it within one day and extend it for 2030 minutes. And that way, I'm not taking it three hours, I'm just extending it to an hour and 20. And that can be a little bit more digestible. But I think that even now with people working from home, it's just kind of taking a toll like people just just putting in meetings and meeting your calendar. Yeah, I

Unknown: 31:15

mean, it's also zoom fatigue, right? Like, that's real. Like, I mean, people are online all the time. And I had to, I joined this program. And she was like, Yeah, we're gonna do the calls on Saturday or Sunday. And I was like, I absolutely cannot do that. I'm like, I need 48 hours off of a computer, not touching it not looking at a screen. I need to be out in nature. My brain can't handle it anymore. Because there's like lighting that goes with it there. You know, there's all this stuff. And I'm like, no, like, that's not okay. And I apologize. I said, I'm so sorry. I feel like I'm being a pain in the ass. Here are my compromises. Here's where we can make a lot more sense. But I'm telling you very real reasons why I can't do the other ones because I won't perform well. I will be resentful. It's not really gonna work out.

Claudia Miller: 32:04

No, I definitely agree. So I mean, like, for some listeners out there that are dealing with that recommend, like just taking inventory and really looking at it like what meetings are necessary, what meetings or just meetings to have meetings.

Unknown: 32:16

I'm really fortunate what my housemate is. One of my housemates is a project manager for a bank. And so she, she can like Project man, I'm like, Okay, this is coming up. She's like, okay, let's clear the charts, like like Lola, you know, she'll get everything kind of set back in tone for me. Look, there are times where you're gonna be working hours, like, you're gonna be working longer, you're just, you just gotta get stuff done, you may wake up, wake up at six in the morning, say, Oh, my God, I have an idea, I need to pump it out. And I need to get it out. And that's creativity and you're executing, but it's not sustainable. So knowing when you can have that 24 hour, 48 hour window to rejuvenate that is so important. And we have zero boundaries around technology, like make sure that you take time away from it.

Claudia Miller: 33:04

Yeah, and also chill, like when you're working, you know, put the do not disturb or busy or just so that way, when you're focusing on like, for me, it's like I get my best ideas in the morning. So like anything that needs a lot of meant like thinking mental energy, and like, Alright, I'm gonna leave this for the morning. No meanness, I'll block it off. And I used to put Do Not Disturb. And I'll even on the chat thing, because of course, you have chat, I'll put a red mark and said Do Not Disturb busy. So that way, I can just focus and do the work that I needed to do that took a lot the most mental energy out of me that will do my best. And then afterwards, anything else that was secondary? If I got to it, I got to it. And then you know if I needed to say a little bit later in the morning, but it just I needed to focus on those two to three items. And that way, I felt a little bit more at ease, even though it was so packed with additional budget, I

Unknown: 33:57

know there's there's always going to be stuff, right? There's always going to be stuff that comes up and it's like, how do you manage that. And I mean, technology, like it's a blessing and a curse, it really is. But knowing like, another thing that we learned in like health coaching school is called crowding out. So it's another principle of saying you're adding in more water instead of more coffee, right? You're adding in more water so that you're eating less foods, you're putting more of something good in so that you'll want less of something bad. So if you can actually this is why I schedule in my workouts and my self care and all of these things because I'm making sure that those buffers on my calendar are there so that I get into that space so that I'm crowding out my calendar so that I'm not taking it over with just meetings. And sometimes the meetings happen and you just have to show up. Yeah. I'm gonna live Yeah, well, great. It's balanced.

Claudia Miller: 35:01

Well, Carrie, I mean, it was great having you here. So tell us, you know, for some listeners out there, I know like you mentioned, you help women in corporate, if they're looking to transition to entrepreneurship, you help, you know, that's your clients, and you help them make that transition. So if there's some listeners out there that are maybe like, are in the corporate world and are looking to transition to entrepreneurship, I want to learn a little bit more about like, the branding the boundaries, and like how to help them identify and align with their styling. Where can they find you?

Unknown: 35:30

Yeah, so I can be found at Carey montgomery.com. And, or on Instagram at I am Carrie Montgomery, on Facebook, Karen Montgomery, also. So pretty simple. I don't use too much LinkedIn these days, but I'm sure that we'll be switching sometime soon. And yeah, if someone's really looking to make that like a line transition to out of their corporate life, and they want to come up with a concept division, they want to build the whole idea and like, have it be sold a lot. Mines. I mean, that's the journey. That's the most fun. Yeah. And we've been able to look in the field, but also really the heart and the soul of it, and also make sure that it makes money.

Claudia Miller: 36:12

Well, thanks again, Kevin, for coming on the show and for sharing us with such great tips that you can do and follow, especially like we mentioned, there's so many things happening to kind of keep you more hopefully at peace aligned and be able to set healthy boundaries and protect you and your mental health.

Unknown: 36:27

Awesome. Thank you so much, Claudia. Thanks, everyone.

Claudia Miller: 36:32

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